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[RaNkeri]

Don't blame muslims for 9/11, blame terrorists

[Jonathan Clement]

Originally Posted by The Leader

It's a shame that you weren't one of them.

Don't even JOKE about that!

Originally Posted by RaNkeri

Don't blame muslims for 9/11, blame terrorists

Do you honestly think that some guys just got up one day and said "Hey, I think I'm gonna go fly some planes into a building and attribute it to islam!"?

[Jonathan Clement]

Oh, thanks guys! Now I have to make multiple posts when I see the messages updated! You never THOUGHT of that, did you?

Originally Posted by Ayatollah

i adamantly condemned atrocity of 9/11. islam thrives on the word of allah as given by muhammad. i have always found it shameful so many think physical desire exists in spiritual existence. vile terrorists promises carnal pleasure in afterlife. this is how we are same. you and i. both loathing the vile lies of the terrorists that claim to do will of allah.

READ THE QUARAN.

[ZeldaQueen]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Clement

Do you honestly think that some guys just got up one day and said "Hey, I think I'm gonna go fly some planes into a building and attribute it to islam!"?

More like an underground group of extremist Muslims waited for years blaming America for various hardships to the point in which they said "If we did this, maybe it will make things better for Islam!", without actually realizing how nasty or horrid their actions were.

Consider the people who bomb abortion clinics in the name of Christianity. Do you blame all Christians for those? No. Just because a bunch of wingnuts on the fringe decide to do something horrible doesn't mean everyone in that group agrees with it.

[Jonathan Clement]

Originally Posted by ZeldaQueen

More like an underground group of extremist Muslims waited for years blaming America for various hardships to the point in which they said "If we did this, maybe it will make things better for Islam!", without actually realizing how nasty or horrid their actions were.

Consider the people who bomb abortion clinics in the name of Christianity. Do you blame all Christians for those? No. Just because a bunch of wingnuts on the fringe decide to do something horrible doesn't mean everyone in that group agrees with it.

I get where you're coming from, but the point is is that Religions POISONS minds, and moderates are just enablers. Religion infects people with this idea hell, the most vile, despicable concept to ever come of the the mind of man, in addition to this reward of heaven. Religion screws peoples morality. When you assume there's a blissful afterlife, morality makes no sense, and that's why atheists make up the tiniest part of the prison population compared to the general population. An atheist knows that if he kills somebody, it CAN'T be undone! He KNOWS that if he commits a wrong, he can't seek the forgiveness of a God, only that persons forgiveness. Religion only demeans life and tells us that this life is something to be hated and despised.

So, no, religion IS the problem. Not the people.

[The Leader]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Clement

So, no, religion IS the problem. Not the people.

For some reason I don’t see how people of God who only live to help their fellow man without passing judgment is a bad thing.

[ZeldaQueen]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Clement

So, no, religion IS the problem. Not the people.

But it's people who start the religions. A religion begins when a person (or group of people) decide "This is how I think things went and how they ought to be". Then you get enough people to agree with it and it becomes a religion.

A religion is just an idea. Without people to think it up and follow it, a religion is nothing.

[Dimnos]

Originally Posted by ZeldaQueen

Consider the people who bomb abortion clinics in the name of Christianity. Do you blame all Christians for those? No. Just because a bunch of wingnuts on the fringe decide to do something horrible doesn't mean everyone in that group agrees with it.

JC probably blames the babies for being conceived in the first place. I mean if they hadnt decided to grow there in the first place they wouldnt have been aborted. JC is a baby hater.

[RaNkeri]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Clement

Do you honestly think that some guys just got up one day and said "Hey, I think I'm gonna go fly some planes into a building and attribute it to islam!"?

You can't judge the whole muslim world because of the actions of few.

By your logic it would be right for us to hate all the germans because they were responsible for the holocaust during WW2.

Or if a black person kills a white person it would be right to judge every black person in the world as a murderer and condemn them.

Or judge every american as a child killer and torturer because of what some of US soldiers have done.

You're fucking retarded

[Pub Lover]

Originally Posted by ZeldaQueen

without actually realizing how nasty or horrid their actions were.

They weren't bad people, just misled? I do nasty and horrid things because I like doing nasty and horrid things.

Originally Posted by Jonathan Clement

religion IS the problem. Not the people.

Even without religion there will still be greed and anger and jealousy. Few are the crimemakers that consider forgiveness from their God as they commit the crime.