NCAA 2009 season thread

[Colonel Flagg]

I agree with Pentegarn, in principle. Boise State beat TCU, but we don't really know how good TCU was, do we? WhiteRat has a point (strength of schedule) but how will we ever find out if they don't allow these teams to play an "acknowledged" power?

Personally, I would have liked to see Texas/TCU in a "Battle of Texas" bowl. Imagine the interest (including TV ratings) that would have garnered. Unfortunately, Texas beat Nebraska, and this became a moot point.

[WhiteRat]

Originally Posted by Colonel Flagg

I agree with Pentegarn, in principle. Boise State beat TCU, but we don't really know how good TCU was, do we? WhiteRat has a point (strength of schedule) but how will we ever find out if they don't allow these teams to play an "acknowledged" power?

Yes, we need a playoff, the fans want it and the media wants it and the BCS money grubbers know this but won't give in. But the fact is in the system we do have now the winner of the national championship game is the National Champion. Key phrase here is "in the system we have NOW."

Saying that X team is the rightful champion because you don't agree with the way it's set up is ridiculous and reeks of sour grapes.

Again, I would LOVE a playoff but to me there are certain factors that you absolutely can't ignore ie the WAC blows big weiners.

[Pentegarn]

Originally Posted by WhiteRat

Saying that X team is the rightful champion because you don't agree with the way it's set up is ridiculous and reeks of sour grapes.

That may be but sour grapes is what I feel as a fan, and thus I refuse to give credence to this fraud of a system. Had we had a tournament before, OSU would likely never have made it to the championship against Florida for example. As a result we got a severe mismatch and nobody enjoys that.

[WhiteRat]

Originally Posted by Pentegarn

That may be but sour grapes is what I feel as a fan, and thus I refuse to give credence to this fraud of a system. Had we had a tournament before, OSU would likely never have made it to the championship against Florida for example. As a result we got a severe mismatch and nobody enjoys that.

Do you think that 55 days off for OSU might have had anything to do with it?

[Pentegarn]

Originally Posted by WhiteRat

Do you think that 55 days off for OSU might have had anything to do with it?

That can account for some of it, but not 30+ points worth, plus that argues for a +2 format because it would force the post season to start 1-2 weeks earlier

Originally Posted by WhiteRat

I don't buy that no one will play them even if they travel. Back in 05 Boise was ranked and played Georgia on the road and got stomped something 38-19 so it's not like USC is losing to them at home and now everyone is suddenly afraid to play them. Also, it's not like they blew OK out of the water, they had to use two trick plays to beat them.

Which is evidence that the BCS and media are inconsistent. If it is OK for the SEC to barely stumble by against the likes of Northwestern and East Carolina and it not mean a thing to their reputation, then Boise State's win against (what should have been) a superior Sooners team should be weighed just as heavily. But it is not, because the SEC is the glamor league in ESPN's eyes, while Boise State is merely an interesting side show, even though they do pretty much everything they are supposed to.

These sorts of inconsistencies almost never happen in college basketball

[Pentegarn]

I missed this, I must have been typing during Kirk Ferentz's post game thank yous. In the traditional post game praise the opponent part of his speech, Kirk Ferentz praised Wake Forest for being such a quality opponent