Let's Have A Tea Party!

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by Dimnos

Its not so much that you have theories about conspiracies so much as you just bust into the middle of a conversation with them. The Colonel just made a joke about Rush so you felt the need to come barging in Kramer style with your "talking heads are liars" bit. Just barely on topic enough to not be a thread derailment.

First off,

I'm assuming that you didn't read the first post because this whole entire topic is based around hatred for people of the right-wing persuasion. Which IMO is a futile effort considering that both sides are funded by the same people. THEN the topic continued by stating that Tea Party people are idiots and don't have enough mental fortitude to understand the bill they are protesting against.

I wonder how many of them actually can speak coherently and accurately about the issues, or who have more than a knee-jerk interpretation of the actual bill? (aka Health care for me = Good; health care for all = bad)

Seems like someone has prejudices against others...hmmm?? Maybe assumptions that aren't exactly true....hmmm....food for thought.

Originally Posted by Dimnos

Speaking of the Colonel... Why do you need to get up his ass? What did he do to you?

I'm not getting up anyone's anywhere. If you haven't noticed I continue to get verbally abused when pointing out basic facts. The Tea Party and others (Democrats as well) were correct about opposing this legislation.

And if anyone would like to have a little conversation about that then fine but if everything I say will be answered with "Conspiracy theorist" then I'm not going to participate. Nor will I have a conversation with someone who speaks so low of his fellow citizens. I'm not a fan of conditioned arrogant elitism.

[The Leader]

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

I'm not a fan of conditioned arrogant elitism.

[Colonel Flagg]

Originally Posted by Coolie

[lots of stuff about stuff]

I thought I was being helpful.

You remind me of one of my old freshman chem students, pre-med. Constantly coming to office hours with the same old exam trying in vain to show me that they did get the answer right, or at least deserved partial credit.

Honestly.

I started this thread because it occurred to me as I was driving through my hometown that most individuals who protest one way or another probably have no clue as to the ramifications of what they may be protesting for or against. I am intrigued but not surprised that it has evolved into a discussion of the pros and cons of the present solution to the current healthcare crisis, now known disparagingly as Obamacare.

Personally, I only am convinced that the most dangerous path is to do nothing. A bad solution can be fixed, but it at least moves us off the status quo. Witness the decision of the previous administration on stem cells - it spawned a whole new era of research into modification of epithelial cells to become pluripotent stem cells. Would this have happened if research was not restricted by the Bush administration? Maybe not.

No quotations, no links, and no trying to convince anyone. This is only my opinion.

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by Colonel Flagg

A story about nothing.....

(Yawn)

Originally Posted by Colonel Flagg

I started this thread because it occurred to me as I was driving through my hometown that most individuals who protest one way or another probably have no clue as to the ramifications of what they may be protesting for or against.

How do you know this? If I remember correctly from your original post all you did was walk by them with your nose in the air like some pseudo-intellectual..... Then after assuming something that you had no proof about you scoffed at them for taking part in the political process. For shame Colonel...for shame.

Originally Posted by Colonel Flagg

I am intrigued but not surprised that it has evolved into a discussion of the pros and cons of the present solution to the current healthcare crisis, now known disparagingly as Obamacare

As stated in my previous posts....AND....repeated by dissident Democratic senators and congressmen, this "Bill" is nothing more then a bailout for the bankrupt insurance and pharmaceutical companies. If you read the bill....which you didn't.....making this a rather hypocritical topic to post...you would have realized that all of the money gets funneled directly into the bank accounts of numerous designated winners who have connections in the white house and congress.

Originally Posted by Colonel Flagg

Personally, I only am convinced that the most dangerous path is to do nothing. A bad solution can be fixed, but it at least moves us off the status quo. Witness the decision of the previous administration on stem cells .

The content of your opinion doesn't surprise me in the least. What it says is that you would rather go along with something bad then actually have something good. Which doesn't make too much sense here in the land of the conscious observer.

What we don't have is a single payer option to compete with private for profit unregulated insurance companies.

What we got....not by our choosing I may add....is a bill cobbled together by the private sector to rip off the common man. This health care system is now a state sponsored cartel to gut the American people and deny them care. Hence why true Democrats fought against it.

This is the Antithesis of FDR and Johnson's Great society. Another sad day in the land of the blind.

[The Leader]

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

(Yawn)

How do you know this? If I remember correctly from your original post all you did was walk by them with your nose in the air like some pseudo-intellectual..... Then after assuming something that you had no proof about you scoffed at them for taking part in the political process. For shame Colonel...for shame.

As stated in my previous posts....AND....repeated by dissident Democratic senators and congressmen, this "Bill" is nothing more then a bailout for the bankrupt insurance and pharmaceutical companies. If you read the bill....which you didn't.....making this a rather hypocritical topic to post...you would have realized that all of the money gets funneled directly into the bank accounts of numerous designated winners who have connections in the white house and congress.

The content of your opinion doesn't surprise me in the least. What it says is that you would rather go along with something bad then actually have something good. Which doesn't make too much sense here in the land of the conscious observer.

What we don't have is a single payer option to compete with private for profit unregulated insurance companies.

What we got....not by our choosing I may add....is a bill cobbled together by the private sector to rip off the common man. This health care system is now a state sponsored cartel to gut the American people and deny them care. Hence why true Democrats fought against it.

This is the Antithesis of FDR and Johnson's Great society. Another sad day in the land of the blind.

Let's see what any of this has to do with what Colonel wrote... Hmm, yes, yes... I have concluded that this has absolutely nothing to do with what Flagg wrote and that Coolinator is possibly schizophrenic.

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by The Leader

Let's see what any of this has to do with what Colonel wrote... Hmm, yes, yes... I have concluded that this has absolutely nothing to do with what Flagg wrote and that Coolinator is possibly schizophrenic.

lol,

Do I have to pull out the Exhibits again like I did in the global warming debate? You didn't like when I did that the last time.

[The Leader]

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

Do I have to pull out the Exhibits again like I did in the global warming debate? You didn't like when I did that the last time.

Would any of them actually have to do with the discussion or will they just be kind of related and/or present ideas that everyone already agrees upon?