Moscow Metro suicide bombings

[TheCoolinator]

I think you're all missing the point here. Terrorism is anything that's used to strike fear into a specified population. Meaning it isn't just bombs going off and random acts of aggression, it can also be fake radio broadcast such as the War of the Worlds incident or fake news story designed to pull on people’s emotions to created a expected response. Fear, anger, hostility, its all very psychological.

Bottom line,

Terrorism is the new communism and to go even further back, it's the new Nazism. This is the reality in which we and others are being baptized in to. The new enemy figure is no longer humorous caricatures of Mao or Stalin it's now an unnamed force called "terrorism". It seems to me that old standing armies with uniforms and expensive machinery are outdated and not cost effective. What works better for the powers that be is funding small groups of upset disenfranchised people and unleashing them on your nearest enemy. This is how warfare is fought in the present.

Remember what I said in my last post. The USA has been funding the Chechen terrorist envoy Ilyas Akhmadov for years now. That would be the same as Russia funding "Osama Bin laden".

Can anyone here make the connection?

State sponsored terrorism.

You are basically espousing all of the fallacies that are present in the media about terrorism. Someone is a terrorist if you don't agree with them or their actions.

Very similar to calling someone a Conspiracy theorists for not adhering to the established paradigm.

[Zhukov]

No way!

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by Zhukov

No way!

Most.....terrorist activities are either state sponsored or are caused when a group of people are being treated unfairly without any means of recourse, mediation, or justice.

It's easy to point a finger at someone and yell "terrorist" after they commit any illegal act but it's difficult for the vast majority of people to understand how they became "terrorists" in the first place. I'm not saying they are justified in their actions. They aren't, but they are easily manipulated and give authoritarians reason to clamped down on civil liberties while getting rich off the security industry.

[Zhukov]

That's a load of baloney. I don't believe that at all.

They're just ... I don't know, evil or something lol. Probably born that way. The terrorists can't be reasoned with you just have to kill them unfortunately. If that means bombing the terrorist countries before they send someone around to blow themselves up in my country then so be it.

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by Zhukov

That's a load of baloney. I don't believe that at all.

They're just ... I don't know, evil or something lol. Probably born that way. The terrorists can't be reasoned with you just have to kill them unfortunately. If that means bombing the terrorist countries before they send someone around to blow themselves up in my country then so be it.

Ha,

I know how you feel Zhukov. Don't let them get you down.

[Zhukov]

Just get out of this thread.

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by Zhukov

Just get out of this thread.

Fine.....

[The Leader]

Originally Posted by Zhukov

Oh, and you said that the partisan killing the old man was both a terrorist and not a terrorist.

When? :O

Originally Posted by Zhukov

Hang on, I was going to ask:

What if your non-state actor causing a violent act on a non-combatant isn't trying to affect change? What if they are simply doing this act for the sake of it? Say, blowing up a hospital simply for the act of causing terror and panic in the population?

By me, it's terrorism. Causing terror. But if they aren't doing it to affect change with the government or individuals, is it terrorism to you?

It’s not terrorism, it’s just random violence. I don’t think that you’d find any groups doing that though. Maybe just some nut opening up on a bunch of people in a shopping mall kind of thing.

Originally Posted by Ant10708

I just don't see how these people' tactics are not terrorism just because they might have a legitmate grievance.

I stopped reading your post after this part because you obviously don’t understand anything that I’ve written. They are terrorists. Terrorists do not have to be bad guys or good guys. I do not personally support terrorism. Re-read my posts.

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

I think you're all missing the point here.

You’re missing the point because we weren’t discussing state sponsorship of terrorism.

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

Very similar to calling someone a Conspiracy theorists for not adhering to the established paradigm.

No, you still don't know how I stand on global warming and all of that. You're a conspiracy theorist because you support a conspiracy theory. You can be completely correct. You are incapable of understanding other people's posts because you have no concept of objectivity. People are either good or bad from your perspective and no one can discuss something from the middle ground.

Basically you're an idiot.

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by The Leader

You’re missing the point because we weren’t discussing state sponsorship of terrorism.

Ummm.......Didn't your dicussion start because of the recent Chechen Terrorist bombing?

If so isn't this a valid point to back up Zhukov's point of view?

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Grant Of Taxpayer-Funded U.S. Asylum For Chechen Terror Envoy Gave Obama Foreign Policy Guru Zbigniew Brzezinski “One Of The Happiest Days Of My Life”

http://tarpley.net/2008/02/03/obama-...hen-terrorism/

His name is Ilyas Akhmadov. He's being funded by the USA. His Chechen fighters were the ones who bombed the Russian subways. The USA refuses to release Ilyas Akhmadov into Russia custody. I don't really know how much simpler I could put it.

Originally Posted by The Leader

You're a conspiracy theorist because you support a conspiracy theory.

Your a terrorist because you support terrorists.

[The Leader]

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

Ummm.......Didn't your dicussion start because of the recent Chechen Terrorist bombing?

If so isn't this a valid point to back up Zhukov's point of view?

His name is Ilyas Akhmadov. He's being funded by the USA. His Chechen fighters were the ones who bombed the Russian subways. The USA refuses to release Ilyas Akhmadov into Russia custody. I don't really know how much simpler I could put it.

It'd be one thing if you turned the discussion towards that but you came in acting all high and mighty, thinking that what you're writing is something that we don't already know. You're slow.

Also most terrorism is not state sponsored. That was only the case during the cold war.

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

Your a terrorist because you support terrorists.

I think that what I'm writing is going over your head.

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by The Leader

Also most terrorism is not state sponsored. That was only the case during the cold war.

If it's not state sponsored then it's provoked, if it's not provoked then it may really be real people taking the law into their own hands. That's rarely the case though.

State sponsored terrorism didn't disappear after the Cold War. It's always been around.