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Old Apr 5th, 2010, 09:44 AM       
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Yeah, but it's ok because America supports them! :D
3 billion dollars a year + free weapons = A lot of dead innocent palestinians.

Wouldn't that be considered state sponsored terrorism? Hmmm
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Old Apr 5th, 2010, 09:53 AM       
You don't hear about this in the news, but American soldiers actually train in Israel as part of their training. Not just training, but their training includes serving as a front line soldier. So America sends soldiers to kill Palestinians, basically.
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Old Apr 5th, 2010, 10:01 AM       
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You don't hear about this in the news, but American soldiers actually train in Israel as part of their training. Not just training, but their training includes serving as a front line soldier. So America sends soldiers to kill Palestinians, basically.
See,

This is the big farce we've been discussing here.

We talk about "terrorism" and "terrorists" like theres actually this underground threat to civilized humanity while all the while we (The civilized nations) are bombing innocents, bulldozing their houses, provoking confrontations with disenfranchised individuals, and manipulating information to condition our own populations to believe it's a "JUST" war.

I call bullshit.
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Old Apr 5th, 2010, 10:11 AM       
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See,

This is the big farce we've been discussing here.

We talk about "terrorism" and "terrorists" like theres actually this underground threat to civilized humanity while all the while we (The civilized nations) are bombing innocents, bulldozing their houses, provoking confrontations with disenfranchised individuals, and manipulating information to condition our own populations to believe it's a "JUST" war.

I call bullshit.
Exactly. During the Tasmanian war the Australian government pumped millions not only into the Commonwealth military, but also into paramilitary groups whose sole purpose seemed to be the terrorising of the population. There was a scandal not long ago when the information finally got out, but people on the mainland didn't seem to care. It's just because we lost that we don't get to write the history books, and we were seen as the terrorists back then simply because we didn't have the funds to buy tanks and planes.

But you tell me, who is the terrorist if one side is shooting soldiers and the other side is shooting civilians?
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Old Apr 5th, 2010, 10:27 AM       
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But you tell me, who is the terrorist if one side is shooting soldiers and the other side is shooting civilians?
I think TheLeader has gone off the deep end.

But back to your question,

The word "Terrorist" and "Terrorism" does not refer to the military tactic anymore. It's been turned into a label. If you're against the establishment (AKA - War, erosion of civil liberties, against Wallstreet) then you're labeled a terrorist. Meaning that you're the boogeyman. You're the "extremist" who isn't normal.


Who is the terrorists you ask? None of them. They are all pawns in a larger game. They are all funded by the same side and are meant to create a perpetual state of war.
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Old Apr 5th, 2010, 10:38 AM       
Basically the war was just another flash in the pan during the Cold War. That's how most people see it, anyhow. On one side there was the UK/US/AUS defending Crown land and western ideals, and on the other you had terrorists. But for people like me, my family and thousands of other Tasmanians, it's a reality that we have to live with. Officially, our state has given up it's aspirations for independence, but there are still many people that wont forgive or forget. Even today there are rebel groups that live in the remote bushlands, and while armed resistance is less popular today, there are areas where even the government are scared to fly their helicopters for fear of being shot down.

If you've never known the fear of walking down the street without being harassed simply for your ethnicity and beliefs, then you can't really comment The Leader.
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Old Apr 5th, 2010, 11:58 AM       
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If you've never known the fear of walking down the street without being harassed simply for your ethnicity and beliefs, then you can't really comment The Leader.
Is this a response to the posts I made about Muslims which were satirizing Ant's posts?

Also your logic is flawed. You don't have to experience a event or problem first hand to study it and debate about it. You, like Ant, apparently cannot separate yourselves from events and look at them in a objective way. Nor can you distinguish between serious posts and mockery.
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