Cloud was nowhere near as stupid as Squall or Vaan

Though I prefer Locke or Zidane as MCs. Especially Z. was refreshing after those two dumbasses before him...
Btw. Cloud is a great example of a very specific...errr thing in JRPGing. Things that are written are not as stupid as if they were spoken. Just look over to 10 or 13.
One of the things that makes 13 as horribly bad as it is is the spoken text. You just don´t SAY these things. It´s okay if they appear as text but once someone says words like that it kind of crosses a line for me and becomes cheesy and bad, embarassing even.