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Old Jul 28th, 2003, 02:04 PM       
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Originally Posted by Abcdxxxx
You're not in California, nor do you vote there.
Jesus, you are such a pretentious twit, it's amazing.

I vote in ONE PLACE in New York State, but this doesn't give me the obnoxious right to claim I'm an expert on BOE procedures in Manhattan or Buffalo.

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Preventing voter fraud doesn't require 20 other candidates....but if one or two of those happened to be stronger candidates, it would have discouraged it.
I'm confused, what the hell are you talking about? My point is that there will be a huge ballot for you this October, filled with a long list of incompetent individuals. Unless they run it as an IRV election (which would be fine) rather than doing it "first past the post"style, the next governor of California will have won on a plurality of something VERY tiny.


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People got off their asses, but the votes weren't counted. You can't defend the integrity of the Davis election, while screaming about how unjust the Bush election was.
Down tiger. Relax, have a drink, take a laxative, do something. When I read your posts I envision a guy ripping his hair out ready to have a nervous breakdown....

I'm not defending the "integrity" of the Davis election, and I honestly know very little about the voter fraud issues there. I do however know that accusations of voter fraud are very common, and most high level state officials have charges of fraud brought against them by (surprise, surprise) their opponents!!!

With that said, I'm not denying it has happened. What I'm saying is that the process you are entering now will put you out of the frying pan and into the fire. I feel it's naive and short-sighted to recall Davis for just about ANYBODY. In this short time frame, the candidate with the most money to plaster his face and name everywhere will WIN. Is this what you want....?


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Oh but really, some people don't like sitting in metropolitan cities IN THE DARK without electricity when they're paying insanely high bills for their utilities by any standards.
Ok, ok, it'll all be ok.....here's my point, calm down. There are assholes all around the country who are driving their state/county/city/town/village/or hamlet into the ground because of bad policy. That's not a procedural issue, that's a policy issue and an electorate issue. Now if voter fraud is your key point for the recall, then I agree with you. But the idea that a guy can get recalled by the guy who WANTS HIS JOB, just by hiring people to petition (something I've done a lot of for various reasons, and it's often a joke) is wrong, IMO.

Again, I'm not saying Davis is a swell guy, a good governor, or anything like that. I'm not even saying the recall is totally unjust. All I'm saying is that the process they are entering into is BAD, and it may even be better were it done as an IRV race.
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