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TheCoolinator · #1

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Whoopsie. Did I hit a nerve?

No, I'm not upset. Somewhat disappointed, yes. But definitely not upset.

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For the record, I've already "fixed" the HMO problem - I'm now on a PPO plan that does not require referrals. I pay quite a bit for the privilege too.

I don't know why you would take a shitty plan like that in the first place.

And I don't see healthcare as a "priviledge", I believe it to be a right. That's why I wish they just expanded medicare instead of creating this healthcare monstrosity which will effect negatively every working family in the USA.

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Also for the record, the HMO plan that you so quickly analyzed and ordered me to "take to court" was discontinued by my company, chiefly because lack of employee participation.

Wish more people would protest with their wallets like that. The main obstacle comes from having to convince people its a bad idea. Usually only after they get screwed they realize that and by that time its too late.

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And, I read the article, and, as I said before, I think it's horseshit.

Ok, but can you disprove it?

Colonel Flagg · #2

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No, I'm not upset. Somewhat disappointed, yes. But definitely not upset.

Dude, you changed my name to something derisive and derogatory. Are you sure there's not something more going on here? :Psychoanalysis

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I don't know why you would take a shitty plan like that in the first place.

It was cheap.

I did it back when I was young, naive and foolish. About your age, in fact, coincidentally. After I had back surgery and the HMO wanted to deny me the cost of a second opinion I switched off that screwed up crap. Good thing too, as my son was less than a year old - try getting referrals for things like speech therapy. Not happening.

But again, this was 10+ years ago, when some guy named Clinton was getting his rocks off in the oval office. How is it that it's just now becoming cachet to call this crap "death panels"?

Answer - it's not, it's called "managed care".

In short, you're crazy if you think this isn't the way things have been for at least the last 10+ years. Nothing new or newly evil here, just the same old same old.

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And I don't see healthcare as a "priviledge", I believe it to be a right. That's why I wish they just expanded medicare instead of creating this healthcare monstrosity which will effect negatively every working family in the USA.

So in other words, you would expand an already flawed and badly mismanaged (and nearly bankrupt) government entitlement program?

Right.

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Ok, but can you disprove it?

Only insofar as I can research the facts and determine to my own satisfaction that 99% of that article is horseshit. In much the same way as you can read your blogs and columnists and post links to internet sites and determine it to be 100% accurate.

And before you quote me, please refrain from changing my words. I quote you directly, I'd appreciate it if you'd do the same. Plus, next time please spell-check and/or grammar-check your posts. With all due respect, you look like a goofball.

{there I go again, mumbling incoherently.

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TheCoolinator · #3

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It was cheap.

I hope you learned your lesson. You should read things before you start paying into them. Speaking of which...did you read the Healthcare bill? It's only 3000 pages long.

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I did it back when I was young, naive and foolish. About your age, in fact, coincidentally.

Did I hit a nerve?

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After I had back surgery and the HMO wanted to deny me the cost of a second opinion I switched off that screwed up crap.

Switched off a plan you shouldn't have agreed to in the first place....go on...

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But again, this was 10+ years ago, when some guy named Clinton was getting his rocks off in the oval office. How is it that it's just now becoming cachet to call this crap "death panels"?

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Answer - it's not, it's called "managed care".

The original question was "Does the new Obamacare Health bill contain Death Panels? "

The answer is yes. A commission of 11 government officials will head the commission and proactively deny you and others the care that they are entitled to. Worse then anything before.

This is how it works, Take notes,

The for-profit deregulated insurance companies will command the Government Officials who work on the Death Boards to find out reason to deny you certain costly procedures. Once denied, the for-profit insurance companies will just refer to the death panels to why they are denying you and your family.

Very Simple. How old are you again? And why don't you know this yet?

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So in other words, you would expand an already flawed and badly mismanaged (and nearly bankrupt) government entitlement program?

I don't believe it's flawed, just under funded, and I agree, it is badly managed but these things can be fixed. It shouldn't be taken away, just improved upon and then expanded to compete with private insurers to force them to lower their prices while also mandating that they cannot deny care if one pays into the plan.

Healthcare fixed. Next.

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Only insofar as I can research the facts and determine to my own satisfaction that 99% of that article is horseshit.

I'll just take that as a "No" you can't disprove it. Call it names, yes (very mature), but disprove it, no.

Dimnos · #4

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Coolie, describe in single words only the good things that come into your mind about... your mother.

Dimnos · #5

I bet next he is going to call you an idiot for not knowing what an HMO is.

Colonel Flagg · #6

Short for HOMO. As in "one of THOSE people."

Right?

Zhukov · #7

There was an horrific accident on the road on my way to work today. A truck lost control and plowed into a family car on it's way interstate.

Zhukov · #8

The driver of the car was killed instantly and the two passengers died later in hospital.

Zhukov · #9

The driver of the truck has been accused of negligence and genocide.

Oh, also, I researched Peter Orszag, and it turns out that he was a lieutenant in the Chilean army during Pinochet's "caravan of death" in the 70s. Rumored to have been highly involved in "Operation Condor" as well as numerous loose trails on ranking assassinations on Soviet diplomats, he now Director of the Office of Management and Budget for President Obama, tasked with forming an elite squad of killers to head the "La muerte del panel" to eliminate the American people as a national group.

Now who looks like an idiot? I guess you guys should just read the facts once and a while.

Dimnos · #10

DUDE! Same fucking shit happened to me two days ago.

Dimnos · #11

http://www.orszagasm.com/

Colonel Flagg · #12

Coolie will be so proud. You guys finally "get it." I guess I'm the one with egg on my face. :ashamed

The Leader · #13

Can you prove it?

TheCoolinator · #14

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Can you prove it?

I can't disprove it.

The Leader · #15

Have you tried?

TheCoolinator · #16

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Have you tried?

Yes,
Have you?

The Leader · #17

Stop being such a genocide.

TheCoolinator · #18

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Stop being such a genocide.

I'm not on Obama / Orzsag's Rationing commission. So, I guess I'm innocent.

Tadao · #19

If the health care bill was 100 pages fagots would complain that not enough is being done.

You can't read 3000 pages? Oh yeah, you have trouble understanding 1 paragraph.

TheCoolinator · #20

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If the health care bill was 100 pages fagots would complain that not enough is being done.

You can't read 3000 pages? Oh yeah, you have trouble understanding 1 paragraph.

Rabbits are prey animals.