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Old Apr 23rd, 2010, 04:46 PM       
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Death Panels are in the Obamacare bill, they aren't a myth.
No, they aren't.
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/08/pal...-death-panels/
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Old Apr 23rd, 2010, 05:23 PM       
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Fact check.org is run by the The Annenberg Foundation who Obama used to work for. A bunch of union busters.

This is not a battle against Palin and Obama. It's about rationing care to our elder and sickly citizens. All of which is allowed in the bill.

Denial of care, Rationing of care, state mandates, compulsory purchases of for profit insurance plans, cuttng of medicare benefits....

No one cares about Palin. She's an imbecile. Read the bill.
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Old Apr 23rd, 2010, 05:38 PM       
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Fact check.org is run by the The Annenberg Foundation who Obama used to work for. A bunch of union busters.
WorldNetDaily is totally unbiased, though, right? It's not like it's a ultra conservative site or anything.
I thought that you were opposed to the "talking heads" of Fox, CNN and other "news" companies. That's why I was a little confused when you linked from this site, one which Bill O'Reilly has written for. Surely you don't just take bits and pieces of things that fit in with your view point and use them without considering how reliable they are. :O
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Read the bill.
There's nothing in there about death panels. If by death panels you mean insurance companies can deny care, well, they can do that now so don't you think calling such a thing a "death panel" just because there's some pointless bill now is a little asinine?
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Old Apr 26th, 2010, 12:15 AM       
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WorldNetDaily is totally unbiased, though, right? It's not like it's a ultra conservative site or anything.
I thought that you were opposed to the "talking heads" of Fox, CNN and other "news" companies. That's why I was a little confused when you linked from this site, one which Bill O'Reilly has written for. Surely you don't just take bits and pieces of things that fit in with your view point and use them without considering how reliable they are. :O

There's nothing in there about death panels. If by death panels you mean insurance companies can deny care, well, they can do that now so don't you think calling such a thing a "death panel" just because there's some pointless bill now is a little asinine?
lol, are you that naive to believe that a left-wing news website would actually post the existence of death panels / rationing of care / cuts in medicare?

Absolutely not, all they talk about is the small little insignificant things in the bill that "regulate" the health care industry (who wrote the entire bill).....which aren't compulsory but merely voluntary....that sound good to the duped public.

This bill is a monstrosity and yet again the American people are going to swallow it, hook, line UN sinka! I don't even know why we continue to debate this.....we've agreed on the farce this bill is. Are we really haggling over if the Death Panels exist? They do....they obviously won't be called that. They'll probably be called "Happy Advisory Boards" which...as it says in the bill....will RATION CARE....DEATH = Rationing of Care....SURPRISE....genocide!

Anyone get that movie reference?
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Old Apr 26th, 2010, 12:48 PM       
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Fails to defend veracity of source and continues hypocrisy.
So Bill O'Reilly and the right wing are unbiased?
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Old Apr 26th, 2010, 02:19 PM       
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So Bill O'Reilly and the right wing are unbiased?


I think Zhukov summed it up a while ago regarding you're perception. When things don't fit into your cookie cutter idea of reality you tend to start getting a little confused and revert right back to "left / right".

The Obamacare bill is a fraud designed to fool the people into believing that real health care reforms are taking place when in fact it's designed by the Insurance companies to be a bailout for the insurance companies while also cutting Medicare and allowing the same Insurance companies to exercise the ability to deny care (AKA DEATH PANELS). There will not be a Board called "DEATH PANEL 1", it will be an incremental but harsh denial of benefits (Genocide).

It’s all very simple.

That article I posted wasn't about left or right, it was just blatant observations of the obamacare bill which you agreed with me that it's a complete and utter farce.

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I think his post was focusing more on the whole death panel myth thing that Palin still clings to. And you, apparently. No one here has ever disagreed that this is just a bailout for insurance companies.


So no one is disagreeing with me on the Bailout for the Insurance companies but JUST BECAUSE IDIOT IMBECILE SARAH PALIN SAID DEATH PANELS EXIST THAT AUTOMATICALLY MAKES THEM FAKE?

Do you see? Little Puppet. Do you see how they pull your strings?

They get the discredited and hated "Right wing" to say their against something and it automatically makes people rally behind it. It's been done TIME and TIME again.

Most of the Republicans voted for the healthcare bill. They love it. They hide their true motive in these kabuki theatre roles they play.
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Old Apr 26th, 2010, 02:46 PM       
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Most of the Republicans voted for the healthcare bill.
Which healthcare bill are you talking about? In the most recent version of the so-called "Obamacare" bill, every single House Republican voted no.

EDIT: So sorry, you're obviously talking about a "super-secret" vote they held before the final vote so they could say they were against the bill, even though it "really" passed near unanimously.

But of course there's no record of this vote; it's been "classified" by the "shadow government".
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Old Apr 26th, 2010, 09:17 PM       
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I think Zhukov summed it up a while ago regarding you're perception. When things don't fit into your cookie cutter idea of reality you tend to start getting a little confused and revert right back to "left / right". So no one is disagreeing with me on the Bailout for the Insurance companies but JUST BECAUSE IDIOT IMBECILE SARAH PALIN SAID DEATH PANELS EXIST THAT AUTOMATICALLY MAKES THEM FAKE?
They don't exist because they don't exist.
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Do you see? Little Puppet. Do you see how they pull your strings?
No, do you see how you're too slow to understand what other people post? No? Not yet? Ok, well then me and Zhukov will keep fucking with you for kicks.
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They get the discredited and hated "Right wing" to say their against something and it automatically makes people rally behind it. It's been done TIME and TIME again.

So, once again, you're saying that factcheck is unreliable but a site that Bill O'Reilly writes for is reliable. Or, rather, you can't wrap your undoubtedly deformed head around this concept and instead will either read too much into one aspect of this post or seem to miss the point entirely.

Coolie, what's it like being too stupid to know that you're stupid?
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