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Old Nov 2nd, 2007, 04:37 PM       
No doubt. One of the reasons I liked 30 Days was because it dropped all the romantic undead bullshit and revisited the original vampire-creature mythos. I'm checking it out again tonight.
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Old Nov 4th, 2007, 10:10 PM       
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No doubt. One of the reasons I liked 30 Days was because it dropped all the romantic undead bullshit and revisited the original vampire-creature mythos. I'm checking it out again tonight.
Yeah. Instead of sipping Chardonnay and doing the weeping willow to thumping goth and techno tracks and gently giving their "victims" love bites whilst fucking them, they're hissing, tearing people to shreds (women, children, and alzheimer's patients are not spared), lighting towns on fire and sowing chaos while alluding to their mythology and looking creepy, ancient (if they had a cyber-goth phase, they grew out of it), and sexy in their totally sweet suits.

If nothing else, the character design was fantastic

What's the problem with the other characters? They're hicks in the frozen north. Some of them will deny it until they're faced with it and their lives are at stake, while others take action and defend the herd at their own expense. Pretty accurate. And using UV rays was damn clever. Just a shame that the hot vampire bitch had to die.

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Sure, I'll agree with you on this, the climax was a little stupid. They couldn't trust another vampire to stay on their side, but somehow he figured that WITH THE POWER OF LOVE he could stay good long enough to change at the *exact* moment to shove his vampire-y fist through the back of the bad guy's throat, and still share a touching sunrise with his estranged wife before turning into charcoal.

Also, what the hell is a Utilador? Is it a generator? A heli pad? A giant woodchipper? A sanctuary when you and your town have gone to shit?

CHUD.com said it best. This is a big dumb action film. It looks great, lots of blood, it's exciting. The problem is, you never have a sense of character, no one to empathize with. They show little emotion, they care nothing for supplies, and they're all in great mental health by the end of it. The Utilador is their bastion of hope, and while too far to ever reach until the end of the film, it's close enough to the center of town to recognize people hiding under their cars. It's fun to watch them fight vampires for a couple of hours, but you never get the feeling that they're under siege by them for a month. One moment, it's hour 23, the next, it's day 13 and Hartnett has grown a beard; not to mention, they've had no food, no water, there's no tension, and the vampires, who were surgically tearing apart every house in the town didn't find theirs until halfway through.

That being said, it's a fun movie.
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Old Nov 5th, 2007, 07:54 PM       
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Also, what the hell is a Utilador? Is it a generator? A heli pad? A giant woodchipper? A sanctuary when you and your town have gone to shit?
A utilador is a 'utility corridor'. In cold climes towns build a single complex to house all the local utility industries. So, the one building is the local power station, incinerator, et all. The grinding jaws you see in the film are part of the incinerator - chews up bigger bits of the garbage for faster and more efficient burning. In places like the Yukon, the incinerator helps repel permafrost, heat homes and is harnessed to power generators.
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Old Nov 5th, 2007, 03:03 PM       
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No doubt. One of the reasons I liked 30 Days was because it dropped all the romantic undead bullshit and revisited the original vampire-creature mythos. I'm checking it out again tonight.
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Old Nov 5th, 2007, 03:10 PM       
Vampire = Monster

Anne Rice/"Modern" Vampire = Colossal faggot with emotional baggage. Also, usually a Mary Sue.
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Old Nov 5th, 2007, 05:31 PM       
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Vampire = Monster

Anne Rice/"Modern" Vampire = Colossal faggot with emotional baggage. Also, usually a Mary Sue.

And usually those bloody Klingon foreheads. What the deuce is that all about?
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Old Nov 6th, 2007, 01:35 PM       
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Vampire = Monster

Anne Rice/"Modern" Vampire = Colossal faggot with emotional baggage. Also, usually a Mary Sue.

Ok, fair enough. I prefer the scary monster, too

But how is that a reversion to some old vampire "mythos"?

The popular view of a vampire is the gay guy.
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Old Nov 6th, 2007, 01:48 PM       
To badly paraphrase those many wonderful George Carlin bits that I'm far, far too lazy to look up, "Popular usage is for schmucks". They're a scary part of local lore, a boogeyman variant, I don't care what AlphonseMcNiteheart@aol.com thinks.
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Old Nov 6th, 2007, 02:18 PM       
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They're a scary part of local lore, a boogeyman variant
Based on what?

And I'm glad you're a cultural snob, but if there was ever a medium that depended upon pop success it's horror.

Where are you getting your version of Dracula? Bram Stroker's and Rice were closer to the gay Vlad Tepes twist around you dislike.
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Old Nov 6th, 2007, 03:19 PM       
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Where are you getting your version of Dracula? Bram Stroker's and Rice were closer to the gay Vlad Tepes twist around you dislike.
Dracula isn't the beginning of the vampire mythos, it's when our idea of it was popularized. The first vampires weren't even bloodsuckers, they were haints. They made their way from Eastern Europe-Baba Yaga territory and evolved into blood or flesh eating ghouls. (Note: This is how I understand it, but I can't pretend to have done any seriously involved research. Shutting up now, Tithonus is far more well versed than I am).

The one thing that I can definitively tell you is that Bram Stoker's Dracula had a hell of a lot more to do with Lord Byron than Vlad the Impaler.
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