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[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by The Leader

WorldNetDaily is totally unbiased, though, right? It's not like it's a ultra conservative site or anything.
I thought that you were opposed to the "talking heads" of Fox, CNN and other "news" companies. That's why I was a little confused when you linked from this site, one which Bill O'Reilly has written for. Surely you don't just take bits and pieces of things that fit in with your view point and use them without considering how reliable they are. :O

There's nothing in there about death panels. If by death panels you mean insurance companies can deny care, well, they can do that now so don't you think calling such a thing a "death panel" just because there's some pointless bill now is a little asinine?

lol, are you that naive to believe that a left-wing news website would actually post the existence of death panels / rationing of care / cuts in medicare?

Absolutely not, all they talk about is the small little insignificant things in the bill that "regulate" the health care industry (who wrote the entire bill).....which aren't compulsory but merely voluntary....that sound good to the duped public.

This bill is a monstrosity and yet again the American people are going to swallow it, hook, line UN sinka! I don't even know why we continue to debate this.....we've agreed on the farce this bill is. Are we really haggling over if the Death Panels exist? They do....they obviously won't be called that. They'll probably be called "Happy Advisory Boards" which...as it says in the bill....will RATION CARE....DEATH = Rationing of Care....SURPRISE....genocide!

Anyone get that movie reference?

[The Leader]

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

Fails to defend veracity of source and continues hypocrisy.

So Bill O'Reilly and the right wing are unbiased?

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by The Leader

So Bill O'Reilly and the right wing are unbiased?

I think Zhukov summed it up a while ago regarding you're perception. When things don't fit into your cookie cutter idea of reality you tend to start getting a little confused and revert right back to "left / right".

The Obamacare bill is a fraud designed to fool the people into believing that real health care reforms are taking place when in fact it's designed by the Insurance companies to be a bailout for the insurance companies while also cutting Medicare and allowing the same Insurance companies to exercise the ability to deny care (AKA DEATH PANELS). There will not be a Board called "DEATH PANEL 1", it will be an incremental but harsh denial of benefits (Genocide).

It’s all very simple.

That article I posted wasn't about left or right, it was just blatant observations of the obamacare bill which you agreed with me that it's a complete and utter farce.

Exhibit A:

Originally Posted by The Leader

I think his post was focusing more on the whole death panel myth thing that Palin still clings to. And you, apparently. No one here has ever disagreed that this is just a bailout for insurance companies.

So no one is disagreeing with me on the Bailout for the Insurance companies but JUST BECAUSE IDIOT IMBECILE SARAH PALIN SAID DEATH PANELS EXIST THAT AUTOMATICALLY MAKES THEM FAKE?

Do you see? Little Puppet. Do you see how they pull your strings?

They get the discredited and hated "Right wing" to say their against something and it automatically makes people rally behind it. It's been done TIME and TIME again.

Most of the Republicans voted for the healthcare bill. They love it. They hide their true motive in these kabuki theatre roles they play.

[Colonel Flagg]

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

Most of the Republicans voted for the healthcare bill.

Which healthcare bill are you talking about? In the most recent version of the so-called "Obamacare" bill, every single House Republican voted no.

EDIT: So sorry, you're obviously talking about a "super-secret" vote they held before the final vote so they could say they were against the bill, even though it "really" passed near unanimously.

But of course there's no record of this vote; it's been "classified" by the "shadow government".

[The Leader]

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

I think Zhukov summed it up a while ago regarding you're perception. When things don't fit into your cookie cutter idea of reality you tend to start getting a little confused and revert right back to "left / right". So no one is disagreeing with me on the Bailout for the Insurance companies but JUST BECAUSE IDIOT IMBECILE SARAH PALIN SAID DEATH PANELS EXIST THAT AUTOMATICALLY MAKES THEM FAKE?

They don't exist because they don't exist.

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

Do you see? Little Puppet. Do you see how they pull your strings?

No, do you see how you're too slow to understand what other people post? No? Not yet? Ok, well then me and Zhukov will keep fucking with you for kicks.

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

They get the discredited and hated "Right wing" to say their against something and it automatically makes people rally behind it. It's been done TIME and TIME again.

So, once again, you're saying that factcheck is unreliable but a site that Bill O'Reilly writes for is reliable. Or, rather, you can't wrap your undoubtedly deformed head around this concept and instead will either read too much into one aspect of this post or seem to miss the point entirely.

Coolie, what's it like being too stupid to know that you're stupid?

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by The Leader

They don't exist because they don't exist.

So rationing of care is not Death Panels? Your lack of logic amazes me.

Originally Posted by The Leader

So, once again, you're saying that factcheck is unreliable but a site that Bill O'Reilly writes for is reliable.

FactCheck is absolutely unreliable for numerous reasons. First reason is that it's run by a private family (Foundation's are used by the rich for social manipulation and tax avoidance on their large sums of money), secondly it has ties to Annenberg which Obama used to work for.

So, the place where Obama used to make his living from is protecting him and you see no conflict of interest there?

I mean, come on TheLeader, Do you see now how when your little cookie cutter idea of reality doesn't add up you'll always go back to you're little "Left vs Right" Mentality?

Your hatred of Bill O'Reilly and other right wing fascists cloud your judgement and make it impossible for you to see that they're ALL fascists.

Once again, I'll repeat, The article I posted, is true. It doesn't matter that Bill-O wrote anything on the site, the article itself can't be challenged. Even Dennis Kucinich (DEMOCRAT) said the same exact thing. Please think rationally.

[Dimnos]

Fine Ill get it.

[Zhukov]

Obamacare Paramilitary Death Panel, yesterday:



These people will decide whether you get medical aid or not, whether you live or die (genocide).

[The Leader]

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

So rationing of care is not Death Panels? Your lack of logic amazes me.

How is that any different that what is done now with people being refused coverage because of pre-existing problems, etc? This bill hasn't changed anything and suddenly calling this process of determining who gets care a "death panel" is misleading. There is not some government run panel that will choose who lives and who dies, the insurance companies will be doing the same thing that they always have.

And I don't think that you've ever studied logic, much less practiced it.

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

FactCheck is absolutely unreliable for numerous reasons. First reason is that it's run by a private family (Foundation's are used by the rich for social manipulation and tax avoidance on their large sums of money), secondly it has ties to Annenberg which Obama used to work for.

So, the place where Obama used to make his living from is protecting him and you see no conflict of interest there?

I mean, come on TheLeader, Do you see now how when your little cookie cutter idea of reality doesn't add up you'll always go back to you're little "Left vs Right" Mentality?

Your hatred of Bill O'Reilly and other right wing fascists cloud your judgement and make it impossible for you to see that they're ALL fascists.

You're the only person who has made it left vs right. I don't hate Bill O'Reilly, I don't know him. I believe that he is biased towards the Republican party and goes with whatever the "conservative" view is. The reason I pointed out that he writes for the site you quoted from is because you attempted to discredit the site I used for reference by calling it biased. The whole point is that you are a hypocrite. It's ok if you use something from a biased website because it fits in with your view but it's not ok for me to reference an article from a biased website because it goes against your view.

If you're going to call the sites that I used biased, then don't use ones that are so obviously biased to back up you claims. Once again you are going off on some tangent that has nothing to do with what is being discussed.

Originally Posted by TheCoolinator

Once again, I'll repeat, The article I posted, is true. It doesn't matter that Bill-O wrote anything on the site, the article itself can't be challenged. Even Dennis Kucinich (DEMOCRAT) said the same exact thing. Please think rationally.

Well, using your rationality I could say the same thing about factcheck.org. All I would have to do is ignore its biases like you do with your favored sites.

[TheCoolinator]

Originally Posted by The Leader

How is that any different that what is done now with people being refused coverage because of pre-existing problems, etc? This bill hasn't changed anything and suddenly calling this process of determining who gets care a "death panel" is misleading. There is not some government run panel that will choose who lives and who dies, the insurance companies will be doing the same thing that they always have.

Like I said previously, no one will put a sign over a meeting hall that says "THIS IS A DEATH PANEL".

This is passed into law and as you stated will not change anything and will actually make matters worse by cutting more benefitial entitlement programs. You're not going to get a cut and dry manifestation of what Sarah Palin said. You will get see (soon enough) how these genocidal laws will be upheld by politicians, judges, and law enforcement. I. E. DEATH PANELS.

Originally Posted by The Leader

You're the only person who has made it left vs right. I don't hate Bill O'Reilly, I don't know him. I believe that he is biased towards the Republican party and goes with whatever the "conservative" view is..

So you're using Bill O'Reilly in an attempt to discredit an article that has nothing to do with "Right or left" ........see what I mean?